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Copyrights, wasRe: My Smithsonian Stamp

4 messages in this thread | Started on 2003-04-04

Copyrights, wasRe: My Smithsonian Stamp

From: Steve (shol3039@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-04-04 01:16:27 UTC

> >It is not an original drawing because I can't free hand
> >anything but stick figures (& even those are questionable),
> >so I hope it doesn't violate a copy write. I'm sure if it
> >does, someone on the list will let me know and I will pull it.

I'll preface this by saying I'm not a lawyer, but i do know a few
good lawyer jokes......

I know everyone has their 2 cents and if we put them together we'll
be rich! LOL But here's my take on this. A copyright is designed to
keep one person from making money off someone else's logo,words,etc.
(in the same way a patent works). So.... unless you're somehow
making money off a stamp that you put in a box out in the middle of
the woods, I would not worry about it.

Of course, I would suggest asking permission to use an image if you
know the original author; but thats the difference beytween
legalities and morals! By the way... I can barely draw a stick figure
myself!

-Steve


Re: [LbNA] Copyrights, wasRe: My Smithsonian Stamp

From: Gwen & Don Jackson (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) | Date: 2003-04-03 17:24:30 UTC-08:00
Steve, I think that was a fairly good summation, no money-no problem. The only company that you might have a problem with could be Disney. They seem to be quite fanatical concerning their properties. Don
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Re: [LbNA] Copyrights, wasRe: My Smithsonian Stamp

From: (PNWEXPLR@aol.com) | Date: 2003-04-03 23:08:11 UTC-05:00
Okay, I'm jumping into the copyright discussion. I think we'd all agree that
when it comes to hiding stamps in the woods, copyright infringement is not a
problem. But as I understood the Smithsonian e-mail, it said they needed
images that were original. If the stamp image is substantially altered from
the clip art (not just by adding other images around it), I think you'd be
okay. But if the artist who created the clip art were to take a look at
your stamp (perhaps on display at the Smithsonian) and say, "Hey! That's my
fox!"--then I'd say you shouldn't submit it.

Just my opinion.
Wild Woman

[LbNA] Copyrights, wasRe: My Smithsonian Stamp

From: Matt (ratpatrolhq@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-04-04 17:54:42 UTC
If you are using clip art as a starting point (not copyrighted
characters), you shouldn't need to worry about copyright, since clip
art is usually sold as royalty-free images that can be published
however the purchaser sees fit.

In art there is no definite line to tell you how much copying is okay
and how much is plagiarism, so its just your own judgement on how
purely original you want it to be. Its up to you how you will combine
the ingredients to make your own creation. As Wild Woman says, you
wouldn't want the artist of the original clip art to recognize your
stamp as a simple copy. If its going to be in the collections of the
Smithsonian, it should be worth the effort to make it your own image,
whether you start with clip art or draw it from scratch.

On the other hand, even if you can't draw a stick person there are
plenty of stamp designs you could make that don't depend on drawing
realistically!

Matt the Rat

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, PNWEXPLR@a... wrote:
> Okay, I'm jumping into the copyright discussion. I think we'd all
agree that
> when it comes to hiding stamps in the woods, copyright infringement
is not a
> problem. But as I understood the Smithsonian e-mail, it said they
needed
> images that were original. If the stamp image is substantially
altered from
> the clip art (not just by adding other images around it), I think
you'd be
> okay. But if the artist who created the clip art were to take a
look at
> your stamp (perhaps on display at the Smithsonian) and say, "Hey!
That's my
> fox!"--then I'd say you shouldn't submit it.
>
> Just my opinion.
> Wild Woman